COMMENT: Marty, I started following you in 1985. That’s when everybody was utilizing the Kondratieff Wave and admitted it averaged 45 to 60 years. They had been all predicting one other Nice Despair. You had been the one one proper again then as effectively. I bear in mind your commercial within the Economist saying a brand new Personal Wave was starting. The ECM has known as each flip ever since and even to the very day.
Now the Brenner Chart is floating round all as a result of it factors to 2023.Ā The 1999 turning level which was purported to be the excessive, was not simply off from the inventory market and the 2000 Dot-Com Bubble, however 1999 was low in gold. The 2019 goal was additionally off for it was 2020 which was a low.
I feel each the Kondratieff and the Brenner cycles have precipitated extra hurt than good in furthering cyclical evaluation. You might be proper. They had been commodity primarily based not economic-based.
I simply wished to share my observations as a result of folks want to grasp the distinction.
Jeff
REPLY: Oh sure. I bear in mind 1985. It was excessive within the greenback and the British pound hit practically par dropping from $240. Sure, we took the again cowl of the Economist for 3 weeks throughout July 1985 to announce the beginning of inflation and the Personal Wave. I used to be shocked that individuals held on to these ads and we might get letters even 2 years later.
The Kondratieff and Benner cycles had been constructed throughout the nineteenth century. You can not create a mannequin on Wheat after which attempt to use it to commerce Copper. Typically it is going to line up, and different occasions it is not going to.
Each Kondratieff and Brenner waves weren’t simply primarily based on commodities/sunspots, however they had been in flip influenced by struggle and local weather, unbeknownst to both. Kondratieff and Brenner adopted agriculture/commodity costs when agriculture accounted for 70% of the GDP pre-Twentieth century. That solely started to say no from 1850 ahead, dropping to 40% by 1900 because the Industrial Revolution emerged with the invention of the steam engine. Then there was local weather change. The Little Ice Age bottomed within the 1600s.
Then there was the volatility in climate that additionally impacted the commodity costs. This too has contributed to the inaccuracy of each waves.Ā Throughout the late 18th to early nineteenth century, it was nonetheless very chilly and the bottom would freeze down a few ft stopping winter crops. The bottom froze to a depth of two ft based on John Adams. When John Adams got down to journey to Philadelphia, it was bitterly chilly and there was a foot or extra of snow that coated the panorama that had blanketed Massachusetts from one finish of the province to the opposite. Beneath the snow, after weeks of extreme chilly, the bottom was frozen strong to a depth of two ft. I grew up close to the Delaware River. NEVER in my lifetime did I ever see the river frozen as you see in work of Washington crossing the Delaware River. In a letter to his spouse, John Adams wrote:
āCertainly I really feel not a bit of out ofĀ Humour, from Indisposition of Physique. You recognize, I can not move a Spring, or fall, with out an unwell Flip ā and I’ve had one these 4 or 5 Weeks ā a Chilly, as normal. Heat Climate, and a bit of Train, with a bit of Drugs, I suppose will treatment me as normal. ā¦Ā Posterity! You’ll by no means know, how a lot it price the current Era, to protect your Freedom! I hope you’ll make a superb Use of it. If you don’t, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to protect it.ā
On September 8, 1816, Jefferson described the climate in a letter to Albert Gallatin:
āNow we have had probably the most extraordinary 12 months of drought and chilly ever recognized within the historical past of America. In June, as a substitute of 3¾ inches, our common of rain for that month, we had only one/3 of an inch; in August, as a substitute of 9 1/6 inches our common, we had solely 8/10 of an inch; and it nonetheless continues. The summer season too has been as chilly as a average winter. In each state North of this there was frost in each month of the 12 months; on thisĀ state we had none in June and July however these of August killed a lot corn over the mountains. The crop of corn by way of the Atlantic states will in all probability be lower than 1/3 of an atypical one, that of tobacco nonetheless much less, and of imply high quality.ā
Clearly, the Kondratieff and Brenner Waves didn’t perceive the exterior forces. The local weather was impacting the meals provide, there have been additionally wars. This is the reason their waves haven’t been constant. If we prolong the Ok-Wave 54 years from the commodity excessive in 1919, that brings us to 1973 which missed the tip of Bretton Woods in 1971 by 2 years, but it surely was close to the OPEC Oil disaster, which was imposed in retaliation for serving to Israel in struggle. The Dow Jones Industrials peaked in January 1973 and crashed into December 1974. The Brenner wave didn’t backside till 1978.
One other 54 years from there’ll carry us to 2027 whereas the Brenner Wave focused 2019 and initiatives the low in 2023. Wheat peaked in March 0f 2022. So you’ll be able to see if any of those targets had been to truly work on time, it tends to be extra of a coincidence reasonably than an correct forecast. So I can see what you say that they’ve maybe led some to assume cyclical analysis is snake oil. It’s so necessary to grasp that you just can not create a mannequin on potatoes after which use it to commerce the Dow. We should perceive the character of markets to understand what we’re actually taking a look at within the first place.
There’s a cycle of industrialization as effectively. Rome started as an agrarian society and moved towards commerce, which introduced them into battle with Carthage. We see this cycle even of their coinage. The primary silver cash of Rome had been struck utilizing the financial system that was Greek in origin from the times of Athens and Alexander the Nice. Solely after the Second Punic Battle did Rome create its personal financial unit which was a debasement (discount in weight) from 6.5 grams to 4 grams. That mirrored each the inflation because of struggle, but additionally the rise of Rome whereby they now not cared about complying with the Greek customary however got down to set up the Roman customary. To at the present time, many denominations nonetheless retain derivatives of the phrase ādenariusā resembling within the Iraqi Dinar or the French denier. The Germans known as it the pfennig and the English adopted that because the penny.
Rome itself grew to become extra like New York and grain was imported from Egypt. As agriculture grew to become extra of an import, Rome blossomed like New York within the arts and tradition. It constructed the large port of Ostia which was celebrated on the coinage of Nero (54-68AD) securing the meals provide.
The shift towards industrialization within the Roman Empire additionally resulted in a decline in delivery charges for youngsters as we see in trendy occasions. Giant households had been wanted in an agrarian society, however not a lot in a developed society ā therefore the household legal guidelines of Augustus. We see the identical patterns repeat all through historical past.
The primary recognized Clear Air Act occurred in 535 AD by Emperor Justinian in Constantinople. He proclaimed the significance of unpolluted air as a birthright.Ā āBy the legislation of nature this stuff are frequent to mankindāthe air, working water, the ocean.āĀ Even Cicero wrote about air pollution within the historical metropolis of Rome. This went hand and hand with developed societies and urbanization.
Joseph Mois Schumpeter (1883-1950) was an Austrian economist, educated in Vienna. He taught at Czernowitz, Graz and Bonn. In 1932, he moved to Harvard the place he taught till his dying. Amongst Schumpeterās writings is Idea of Financial Improvement (1912), Enterprise Cycles (1939), Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy (1942), and Historical past of Financial Evaluation (1954).
Schumpeter developed a idea of commerce cycles and development; he argued that irregular revenue was the entrepreneurās reward for innovation. He predicted, nonetheless, that the scope for innovation could be declining in the midst of capitalist improvement as aggressive market buildings had been changed by monopolies. He believed that capitalism would progressively evolve into socialism. Like Malthus, he couldn’t look into the long run and see all of the technological developments that may always create waves of recent innovation.
In 1939, it was truly Schumpeter who recommended naming the cycles āKondratieff wavesā in his honor. To clarify the Kondratieff Wave, Schumpeter known as them waves of innovation that end in waves of artistic destruction. Every wave of some new innovation destroys the final. Vehicles worn out horses & buggies. The web is wiping out native shops, and the publish workplace, as know-how has launched streaming that has worn out VCRs and DVDs, and even film theaters. The cryptocurrency advocates promote the tip of central banks and paper forex.
There has all the time been a cycle of innovation. That was one in all Joseph Schumpeterās most important theories to clarify the enterprise cycle. For instance, first, there was the Canal Bubble that peaked throughout the Panic of 1825. There was the invention of the telegraph adopted by the phone. The traditional Romans had invented the primary model of the Pony Specific and will get a letter from Britain to Rome in about 7 days. That too was celebrated on the coinage of Emperor Nerva (96-98AD).
This age of communication with the Pony Specific and stagecoach journey was adopted by the invention of the steam engine. That gave delivery to the railroad increase which lasted from the 1860s and peaked in 1907. It was on Could tenth, 1869, when the Union Pacific and Central Pacific railroad strains joined 1776 miles of rail at Promontory Summit, Utah Territory connecting the East and West by rail. The Railroad Barrons grew to become well-known millionaires and that innovation increase peaked initially with the Panic of 1893, however the remaining rally within the railroads peaked in 1907. Thereafter, the combustion engine took over for the subsequent wave of innovation giving delivery to the car took over and peaked in 1929, tractors, and air journey.
On January 1, 1914, the worldās inaugural scheduled flight with a paying passenger hopped throughout the bay separating Tampa and St. Petersburg, Florida. Planes had been used throughout World Battle I, however after the struggle, there have been 1000’s of unemployed pilots and a surplus of plane together with an appreciation for the long run significance of this new know-how.
It was after World Battle I that civilian airliners started to emerge. The Fokker Trimotor inbuilt Europe by the Dutch with an 8-12 passenger capability was the preferred airliner within the Nineteen Twenties. It had a variety of about 600 miles. World Battle II was coming into play when the USA constructed Douglas DC-3 with a capability of 28 passengers. It had a variety of practically 1500 miles. The DC-3 made its maiden business flight in 1936 between New York and Chicago and thus the airline shares had been the large innovation for the rally into 1937.
It was 1938 when televisions first started to be commercially out there. It could be after World Battle II when this grew to become the subsequent actual innovation increase. It was 1954 when coloration RCA TV C-100 techniques had been offered throughout America. By 1960, there have been 4 debates between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon that had been broadcast and adjusted the way during which presidents would marketing campaign. By 1969, Neil Armstrong walked on the moon for the primary time as hundreds of thousands of American viewers watched stay on community TV.
In fact, we have now the web increase in 2000, and many others., and there’s a clear cycle of innovation that Kondratieff and Brenner couldn’t see earlier than even the invention of the combustion engine that led to tractors altering agriculture without end. There’s a distinction between when one thing is invented and when it turns into commercially viable.
For instance, Ā the FAX machine was truly invented by the Scottish inventor Alexander Bain (1811ā1877) who was well-known for being the primary to patent the electrical clock and was additionally concerned in putting in the telegraph strains between Edinburgh and Glasgow in Scotland. He may see in his thoughtsās eye that the Morse Code of dots and dashes invented a number of years earlier by Samuel Morse, may take a picture and transmit it by lowering it to a binary picture. He envisioned the primary fax machine. In 1846, he was in a position to reproduce graphic indicators in laboratory experiments. He utilized and obtained a British patent #9745 on Could 27, 1843,Ā for hisĀ āElectrical Printing Telegraphā, but it surely took greater than 100 years to truly turn into usable.Ā Now we have launched into the subsequent wave of innovation that features quantum computer systems and Synthetic Intelligence.
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Consequently, when you find yourself taking a look at long-term cycles, a couple of hundred years just isn’t sufficient knowledge. If Kondratieff had been alive in the present day and primarily based his research on simply the present system, he could be specializing in companies reasonably than commodity-based economies. Agriculture has fallen to simply 1.41% of the civil workforce.

It’s merely very important to understand the very nature of the information that you’re intending to make use of to create fashions, which is itself in its personal cycle of innovation. This is the reason the Financial Confidence Mannequin is completely totally different. It’s NOT panic on any single sector. It’s primarily based on the increase and bust motion no matter the sector and it embraces the whole world, not a single economic system. Again-testing revealed that not solely did the Roman Financial System collapse in simply 8.6 years, however this cyclical frequency seems all through the traditional financial techniques globally.